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Prince John of England--the Forgotten Prince

 Prince John (John Charles Francis; 12 July 1905 – 18 January 1919) was a member of the British Royal Family, the youngest son of King George V and Queen Mary. The Prince had epilepsy and consequently was largely hidden from the public eye.

Early life

Prince John was born at York Cottage, on the Sandringham EstateNorfolkEngland. His father was then Prince George, Prince of Wales (later King George V), the eldest living son of King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra. His mother was Mary, The Princess of Wales (later Queen Mary), the eldest daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Teck. At the time of his birth, he was sixth in the line of succession.


Prince John had his first epileptic seizure at age four. He did not attend his father's coronation on 22 June 1911.

At age 12, his condition having deteriorated, he was settled with his own household at Wood Farm on the Sandringham Estate.] He had anannyCharlotte Bill, known in the family as "Lalla". Thomas Haverly was a coachman from Windsor Castle, chosen to drive for John because he was known to be reliable

He took the Prince on outings in the country or to the sea and to the "big house" at Sandringham when any members of the family were in residence. Wood Farm also had its own cook and a live-in maid.

John had a tutor, Henry Peter Hansell (1863–1935), as well. An area of the garden was set aside for him with a plaque, "Prince John's garden", and gardeners who helped him tend it. Indoors, he had his books, a pedal car (in which he was photographed) and a ride-on train. Family photos show him riding a bicycle and a horse without assistance.


It has often been said that John was lonely at Wood Farm, but this is not entirely accurate. He was provided with a companion there, Winifred Thomas, aYorkshire girl of similar age, who suffered from asthma and had been sent to live in the country with her aunt and uncle, George Stratton, the riding master at Sandringham. Soon after Winifred's arrival, the Strattons received a visit from Queen Mary and the nanny (a role Victorians referred to as a nurse), who were looking for a friend for John. Winifred's delicacy probably recommended her to them and after the visit she played with the Prince almost every day. When he was ill, she sat by his bed while the nanny read to them. They went on nature walks together and worked in the garden. No date is given for Winifred's arrival but it must have happened long before the move to Wood Farm in 1917. Years later, Winifred remembered Prince John having had a bicycle chase with his first cousin Crown Prince Olav of Norway (later King Olav V of Norway, reigned 1957–1991).[citation needed]

Winifred continued to be close to John during the First World War. She remembered his excitement at watching zeppelins passing overhead at Sandringham in 1916 and his pleasure in meeting 'a real, live soldier', her father, Sergeant Frederick Thomas, who visited that same year.[citation needed]

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[edit]Queen Mary as a mother

Winifred Thomas remembered John’s mother, Queen Mary, as a loving and interested parent who spent a lot of time with her son — another departure from the accepted view. A passage of the Queen's diary, written some days after John's death reads: "Miss the dear child very much indeed."

Other comments in the Queen’s diary include:

"Tuesday, January 21st 1919. Canon Dalton & Dr Brownhill conducted the service, which was awfully sad and touching. Many of our own people and the villagers were present. We thanked all Johnnie's servants, who have been so good and faithful to him."

She was genuinely moved by their loyalty and went further than simply thanking them. Thomas Haverly's daughter was given John's blackboard, which in time passed on through her own family, and Winifred was given a number of his books with Queen Mary's own hand-written inscription, "In memory of our dear little Prince." The Queen also treasured photographs of him, her own diary notes of their time together, and letters. One of these, written by John to Winifred's uncle who had broken his arm in a riding accident, reads: "Dear Mr. Stratton, I hope your arm is better. Are you going to church? With my love from John."


Neither of John’s parents were at Wood Farm when he died unexpectedly in the early hours of 18 January 1919. At 5.30 a.m., the telephone rang at Sandringham House. Charlotte Bill was on the line, telling the Queen that John had had a severe seizure and could not be awakened. Since John turned 13, the seizures had grown worse and had become more frequent.

King George and Queen Mary immediately were driven the one mile to Wood Farm and found Miss Bill 'heartbroken but resigned', and the lifeless boy lying as if asleep on his bed.

An entry in the Queen's diary reads:

Lalla Bill telephoned from Wood Farm, Wolferton, that our poor darling Johnnie had died suddenly after one of his attacks. The news gave me a great shock, though for the little boy's restless soul, death came as a great release. I brought the news to George & we motored down to Wood Farm. Found poor Lalla very resigned but heartbroken. Little Johnnie looked very peaceful lying there… For him it is a great release as his malady was becoming worse as he grew older and he has thus been spared much suffering. I cannot say how grateful we feel to God for having taken him in such a peaceful way, he just slept quietly… no pain, no struggle, just peace for the poor little troubled spirit, which had been a great anxiety for us for many years ever since he was four.

Prince John was buried 21 January 1919 at Sandringham Church (the Church of St Mary Magdalene), Norfolk.


The name "John" has been considered unlucky by the royal family and its use avoided since the death of the prince. The popularly negative historical view of the only English monarch to bear the name — King John (reigned 1199–1216) — especially his fictionalisation as the villainous Prince John in the Robin Hood stories has no doubt compounded concerns about the name.

It was reported that Diana, Princess of Wales, wished to name her elder son John after her own father, but was prevented from doing so by royal tradition.

According to a 2008 Daily Mail article, "Prince John was swiftly written out of the family history. In at least one family tree issued by the House of Windsor, his name was deleted."

The dramatist Stephen Poliakoff wrote and directed the television serial The Lost Prince that covered many of the events that transpired on the world stage during the reign of King George V through the eyes of the youngest son, Prince John.

It aired on BBC One in 2003 and November 2009, on BBC Two in 2006, on PBS in 2004 and again in 2005, on Television New Zealand TV One in 2005 and onAustralian Broadcasting Corporation ABC in 2007.

The title role was played by two young British actors, Daniel Williams (young Prince John) and Matthew Thomas (older Prince John). Charlotte "Lalla" Bill's character was played by Gina McKee. The film won three Emmy Awards.

John's story was also the subject of a Channel 4 documentary entitled Prince John: The Windsors' Tragic Secret.

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posted on Sept 12, 2011 6:32 PM ()


Royal or not I hate to see children sick and/or die.
comment by greatmartin on Sept 13, 2011 6:19 AM ()
I saw The Lost Prince on PBS, a wonderful production which I enjoyed, and that sent me reading about young John as well as the developments in the care of epilepsy. Too late for John. As I watched the program, I couldn't help but think of the bad omens in British royal history for those named John.
comment by marta on Sept 12, 2011 7:05 PM ()
I know! Interesting, isn't it.
reply by royalblog on Sept 13, 2011 5:38 AM ()

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